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		<title>Cool way to make a video</title>
		<link>http://www.usken.no/2010/09/cool-way-to-make-a-video/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sjur</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Xtranormal.com is an easy way to make simpel videos. You can see mine about telecom fraud here (37 seconds).
Enjoy!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="www.xtranormal.com" target="_blank">Xtranormal.com</a> is an easy way to make simpel videos. You can see mine about <a href="http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7092769/" target="_blank">telecom fraud here</a> (37 seconds).</p>
<p>Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>Don&#8217;t have your IP phone on a public IP</title>
		<link>http://www.usken.no/2010/09/dont-have-your-ip-phone-on-a-public-ip/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sjur</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My friend Thomas sent me this. He has a Polycom telephone on a public IP. Nice when some computer calls you in the evening&#8230;

Picture: Copyright Thomas Nilsen (C) 3MT.no
The owner of the IP:
status:       ALLOCATED PORTABLE
source:       APNIC
person:       Chinanet Hostmaster
nic-hdl:      CH93-AP
e-mail:       anti-spam@ns.chinanet.cn.net
address:      No.31 ,jingrong street,beijing
address:      100032
phone:        +86-10-58501724
fax-no:       +86-10-58501724
country:      CN
changed:      dingsy@cndata.com 20070416
mnt-by:       MAINT-CHINANET
source:       APNIC
person:       Wu Xiao Li
address:      Room [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend Thomas sent me this. He has a Polycom telephone on a public IP. Nice when some computer calls you in the evening&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usken.no/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/polycom-tlf-som-bilr-scannet-IMAG0083.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-371" title="polycom tlf som bilr scannet IMAG0083" src="http://www.usken.no/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/polycom-tlf-som-bilr-scannet-IMAG0083-300x179.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="179" /></a></p>
<p>Picture: Copyright Thomas Nilsen (C) <a href="http://3mt.no" target="_blank">3MT.no</a></p>
<p>The owner of the IP:<br />
status:       ALLOCATED PORTABLE<br />
source:       APNIC<br />
person:       Chinanet Hostmaster<br />
nic-hdl:      CH93-AP<br />
e-mail:       anti-spam@ns.chinanet.cn.net</p>
<p>address:      No.31 ,jingrong street,beijing<br />
address:      100032<br />
phone:        +86-10-58501724<br />
fax-no:       +86-10-58501724<br />
country:      CN<br />
changed:      dingsy@cndata.com 20070416</p>
<p>mnt-by:       MAINT-CHINANET<br />
source:       APNIC<br />
person:       Wu Xiao Li<br />
address:      Room 805,61 North Si Chuan Road,Shanghai,200085,PRC</p>
<p>country:      CN<br />
phone:        +86-21-63630562<br />
fax-no:       +86-21-63630566<br />
e-mail:       ip-admin@mail.online.sh.cn<br />
nic-hdl:      XI5-AP<br />
mnt-by:       MAINT-CHINANET-SH</p>
<p>changed:      ip-admin@mail.online.sh.cn 20010510<br />
source:       APNIC</p>
<p>so hard to get any further on this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>An old SIP scanning has started again.</title>
		<link>http://www.usken.no/2010/09/an-old-sip-scanning-has-started-again/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 10:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sjur</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[VoIP]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[botnet]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[counterpath]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[hacking]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[scanning]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now the scanning has started again.
For those remembering back in 2008 there was a large scanning in Germany, where customers with softphones experienced incoming calls (very annoying during the night..), it has now started again. A good paper from ipcom.at describing it extensively.
What caugt my attention was the very long branch and callid fields. They [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now the scanning has started again.<br />
For those remembering back in 2008 there was a large scanning in Germany, where customers with softphones experienced incoming calls (very annoying during the night..), it has now started again. A <a href="http://www.ipcom.at/fileadmin/public/2008-10-22_Analysis_of_a_VoIP_Attack.pdf" target="_blank">good paper</a> from<a href="http://www.ipcom.at/en/home/" target="_blank"> ipcom.at</a> describing it extensively.</p>
<p>What caugt my attention was the very long branch and callid fields. They contain IP of the scanner, the scanned victim, the phone number trying to be called and several other fields (if you know what the rest of the codes are, please let me know!)</p>
<blockquote><p>INVITE sip:82727117149111@the.honeypot.ip;transport=udp SIP/2.0<br />
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 202.71.111.5:3916;branch=11010010111010001010101000110202.71.111.5the.honeypot.ip751302518;rport<br />
Max-Forwards: 70<br />
From: &lt;sip:736115896703798455@the.honeypot.ip&gt;;tag=5475511560139881995954755115605475511560202.71.111.5<br />
To: &lt;sip:82727117149111@the.honeypot.ip&gt;<br />
Call-ID: ed6681d610110011110110100100110111000011010010111010001010101000110202.71.111.5the.honeypot.ip7513025181c895d9827271171491115475511560139881995954755115605475511560202.71.111.51621419374<br />
CSeq: 1 INVITE<br />
Contact: &lt;sip:1c895d9@202.71.111.5:3916;transport=udp&gt;<br />
Content-Type: application/sdp<br />
Allow: ACK, BYE, CANCEL, INFO, INVITE, MESSAGE, NOTIFY, OPTIONS, PRACK, REFER, REGISTER, SUBSCRIBE, UPDATE, PUBLISH<br />
User-Agent: eyeBeam release 1003s stamp 31159<br />
Content-Length: 208</p>
<p>v=0<br />
o=- 16264 18299 IN IP4 the.honeypot.ip<br />
s=CounterPath eyeBeam 1.5<br />
c=IN IP4 the.honeypot.ip<br />
t=0 0<br />
m=audio 34222 RTP/AVP 18 0 8 101<br />
- Hide quoted text -<br />
a=fmtp:18 annexb=no<br />
a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000<br />
a=fmtp:101 0-15</p></blockquote>
<p>And no, it is definely not &#8220;CounterPath eyeBeam 1.5&#8243; but a custom-made scanner. This is just an indication that people are willing to put mony into developing software to attack these insecure VoIP servers.</p>
<p>Status now is frequent usage of stand-alone SIPviciuous and other scanners, and two kits doing extensively scanning:</p>
<p>the userAgent=sundayddr<br />
they started this spring, getting scannings from all over the world, but an overweight of Chinese IP addresses.</p>
<p>the current scannings with &#8220;Counterpath&#8221; as user-agent.<br />
They have been active before, and now started again (scanning latest month)</p>
<p>And this is just the beginning&#8230;. so secure your VoIP servers!</p>
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		<title>Just 10 000 USD in hacking this time..</title>
		<link>http://www.usken.no/2010/08/just-10-000-usd-in-hacking-this-time/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sjur</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[VoIP]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[A VoIP hacking that actually reached the public, was just 10 000,- USD being frauded for. I would say they were lucky. This is just top of the iceberg, I hear about so many more not being reported because the firm or institution does not want to &#8220;have beeing hacked&#8221;. The latest news about it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A VoIP hacking that actually reached the public, was just 10 000,- USD being frauded for. I would say they were lucky. This is just top of the iceberg, I hear about so many more not being reported because the firm or institution does not want to &#8220;have beeing hacked&#8221;. The latest news about it in <a href="http://www.aftenposten.no/okonomi/article3762331.ece" target="_blank">Norwegian </a>or translated to <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&amp;prev=_t&amp;hl=no&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;layout=1&amp;eotf=1&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aftenposten.no%2Fokonomi%2Farticle3762331.ece&amp;sl=no&amp;tl=en" target="_blank">English</a></p>
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		<title>Open letter to the people behind the SIP scans&#8230;.</title>
		<link>http://www.usken.no/2010/02/open-letter-to-the-sip-scanners/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sjur</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have written a letter to the people in charge of the SIP scanning and owner of the network. I have now sent it to several IP responsible for those IP addresses.
&#8212;&#8212;-
﻿﻿﻿﻿﻿Dear support personnel
We have repeatedly been scanned for open SIP (VoIP) access from IP
adresses: 113.105.152.101, 113.105.152.102 and 113.105.152.104.
The last time was February 27th 2010, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have written a letter to the people in charge of the SIP scanning and owner of the network. I have now sent it to several IP responsible for those IP addresses.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>﻿﻿﻿﻿﻿Dear support personnel</p>
<p>We have repeatedly been scanned for open SIP (VoIP) access from IP<br />
adresses: 113.105.152.101, 113.105.152.102 and 113.105.152.104.<br />
The last time was February 27th 2010, but this scanning has been going<br />
on for a long time, first reported back in December 2009.</p>
<p>http://www.usken.no/2010/02/and-the-scanning-just-keeps-on-coming/</p>
<p>http://pbxinaflash.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6223</p>
<p>http://www.freepbx.org/forum/freepbx/users/call-log-with-asterisk-in-both-source-and-clid-columns</p>
<p>We believe this is fraudulent activity to scan for open SIP gateways to<br />
route traffic towards the telephony network.</p>
<p>Please inform the owners of these servers that this activity is not<br />
tolerated and seen as an attack on our servers.</p>
<p>regards</p>
<p>sjur﻿</p>
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		<title>And the scanning just keeps on coming</title>
		<link>http://www.usken.no/2010/02/and-the-scanning-just-keeps-on-coming/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sjur</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A Chinese based server has been very active latest days, and googling the IP addresses ( 113.105.152.102 and 113.105.152.104 ) tells me they have been scanning a long time.
One guy with an Asterisk got hit December 2009 and others back in November. Others starts debugging and asks what it is in public support forums. There [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A <a href="http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/113.105.152.104">Chinese based </a>server has been very active latest days, and googling the IP addresses ( 113.105.152.102 and 113.105.152.104 ) tells me they have been scanning a long time.</p>
<p><a href="http://ericrichardson.com/2009/12/1757-the-phone-is-ringing">One guy</a> with an Asterisk got hit December 2009 and <a href="http://pbxinaflash.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6223">others</a> back in November. <a href="http://www.freepbx.org/forum/freepbx/users/call-log-with-asterisk-in-both-source-and-clid-columns">Others</a> starts debugging and asks what it is in public support forums. There will be even more of this scanning coming next months!</p>
<p>Some has added firewall rules like:</p>
<blockquote><p>deny <a href="http://113.105.152.102/255.255.255.255" target="_blank">113.105.152.102/255.255.255.255</a><br />
deny <a href="http://66.117.50.225/255.255.255.255" target="_blank">66.117.50.225/255.255.255.255</a><br />
deny <a href="http://204.57.122.6/255.255.255.255" target="_blank">204.57.122.6/255.255.255.255</a></p></blockquote>
<p>But this will not last long until some new IP addresses show up.</p>
<p><strong>What to do about it?</strong></p>
<p>Secure your IP PBX and don&#8217;t let port 5060 be open for everybody.<br />
If you must, have very long and strong passwords on all extensions. (or use <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_knocking">port knocking</a>..)<br />
Make sure that callers into your PBX is not allowed onto any Outbond context making you pay their calls&#8230;</p>
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		<title>VoIP hackers getting their sentence&#8230;.</title>
		<link>http://www.usken.no/2010/02/voip-hackers-getting-their-sentence/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sjur</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[VoIP]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Old news for us in the VoIP, but a reminder for you who think you can abuse VoIP systems and get away with it..
Dan York has a good overview of it on his blog:
Updating a story we have literally been following for years ever since it broke back in July 2006, the FBI recently issued [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old news for us in the VoIP, but a reminder for you who think you can abuse VoIP systems and get away with it..</p>
<p>Dan York has a good overview of it on<a href="http://voipsa.org/blog/2010/02/19/voip-fraudster-and-fugitive-edwin-pena-pleads-guilty/"> his blog</a>:</p>
<p>Updating a story <a href="http://voipsa.org/blog/?s=pena">we have literally been following for years</a> ever since it broke back in July 2006, the FBI recently <a href="http://newark.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel10/nk020310a.htm">issued a news release indicating that Edwin Pena pled guilty</a> in what we have been calling the “Pena/Moore VoIP fraud case”. From the news release:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Edwin Pena, 27, a Venezuelan citizen, pleaded guilty before U.S. District Judge Susan D. Wigenton to one count of conspiracy to commit computer hacking and wire fraud and one count of wire fraud. Judge Wigenton continued Pena’s detention without bond pending his sentencing, which is scheduled for May 14.</em></p></blockquote>
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		<title>SIP scanning causes DDoS on IP 1.1.1.1</title>
		<link>http://www.usken.no/2010/02/sip-scanning-causes-ddos-on-ip-1-1-1-1/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sjur</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[VoIP]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[RIPE said a long time ago that IPv4 is running out of addresses. Now they are also allocating the 1.x.x.x network for production traffic. But this is a bit problematic, since people have been using IP addresses like 1.1.1.1 and 1.2.3.4 as examples in scripts, tools and manuals. People who don&#8217;t know any better, they [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RIPE said a<a href="http://www.ripe.net/info/info-services/ipv4/"> long time</a> ago that IPv4 is running <a href="http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/333162/apnic_ipv6_adoption_delay_could_create_costs/?fp=2&amp;fpid=1">out of addresses</a>. Now they are also allocating the 1.x.x.x network for production traffic. But this is a bit problematic, since people have been using IP addresses like 1.1.1.1 and 1.2.3.4 as examples in scripts, tools and manuals. People who don&#8217;t know any better, they try contact these. When they routes to these networks where alive, a <a href="http://labs.ripe.net/content/pollution-18">LOT </a>of traffic started coming in.</p>
<p>What made it interesting for Sandro in <a href="http://www.enablesecurity.com">EnableSecurity </a>was that most traffic was UDP (60 %) and almost 90 % to IP addresss 1.1.1.1. This is a text from <a href="http://labs.ripe.net/content/pollution-18">RIPEs </a>article about it:</p>
<blockquote><p>We found that almost 60% of the UDP packets are sent towards the IP address 1.1.1.1 on port 15206 which makes up the largest amount of packets seen by our RRC. Most of these packets start their data section with 0&#215;80, continue with seemingly random data and are padded to 172 bytes with an (again seemingly random) 2 byte value.</p></blockquote>
<p>This can actually be RTP traffic (VoIP audio traffic) generated from hosts that are vulnerable to SIP INVITE attacks, as Sandro points out in <a href="http://labs.ripe.net/node/195">his comment</a> and on <a href="http://blog.sipvicious.org/2010/02/rtp-traffic-to-1111.html">his blog</a>.</p>
<p>This is also alarming! This scanning with default RTP audio to IP 1.1.1.1 and port 15206 seems to be doing REALLY well on the Internet. There are a lot of VoIP unsecure platforms accepting and responding to ANY SIP INVITE they get. The software doing it is NOT SIPVicious, but another. It normally uses port 3058 to send the SIP INVITES from. If anybody knows something about this software, please contact me.</p>
<p>I have had a slide in my VoIP presentations about this scenario. If you do a SIP INVITE sweep, you should NOT have a valid IP address for the audio. Every successful INVITE would then generate at least 20 seconds of 0,1Mbit per second stream (g711 audio) to your IP address. Your SIP INVITE sweep with your IP as receiver for RTP traffic will not take long before it backfires on you and you get a DDoS on yourself (well earned though IMHO).</p>
<p>So what is next?</p>
<p>I would love to have a honeypot or get access to the traffic going to port 1.1.1.1. All hosts that would send RTP traffic to this address, should be contacted and asked to secure their servers!</p>
<p>Status now from RIPE:</p>
<blockquote><p>Since the traffic patterns seemed to be stable we decided to withdraw the announcement of 1.1.1.0/24 and 1.2.3.0/24 on 2 February 2010.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Vulnerability in FreePBX 2.5 and 2.6</title>
		<link>http://www.usken.no/2010/01/vulnerability-in-freepbx-2-5-and-2-6/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 11:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sjur</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Exploit Database reports that FreePBX version 2.5 and 2.6 is vulnerable to Cross-Site Scripting (XSS).
An affected user may unintentionally execute scripts or actions written by
an attacker. In addition, an attacker may obtain authorization cookies
that would allow him to gain unauthorized access to the application.

This is just the beginning of vulnerabilities in different VoIP applications. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/11184" target="_blank">Exploit Database</a> reports that <a href="http://www.freepbx.org">FreePBX </a>version<a href="http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/11184" target="_blank"> 2.5 and 2.6 is vulnerable</a> to Cross-Site Scripting (XSS).</p>
<p><em>An affected user may unintentionally execute scripts or actions written by<br />
an attacker. In addition, an attacker may obtain authorization cookies<br />
that would allow him to gain unauthorized access to the application.<br />
</em></p>
<p>This is just the beginning of vulnerabilities in different VoIP applications. Up until now, there has not been the need of vulnerabilities to exploit VoIP services. Too many IP PBXes has been configured insecure, and easy to abuse.</p>
<p>The next wave will see more exploits beeing used towards IP PBXes. They are often based on same protocols and applications as any other server&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>And the VoIP scannings just keeps on coming</title>
		<link>http://www.usken.no/2010/01/and-the-voip-scannings-just-keeps-on-coming/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sjur</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[VoIP]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Mark Waters had his Asterisk scanned for extensions without passwords or easy passwords. Mark writes: &#8220;I have now set allowguest=no in /etc/asterisk/sip.conf and will monitor how this affects regular incoming calls and also the next ‘attack’&#8221;
If he really need his Asterisk available on port 5060, he could use SSH tunneling for the SIP signalling or [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://micro.blogs.weloveit.info/?author=2">Mark Waters</a> had his Asterisk scanned for extensions without passwords or easy passwords. Mark <a href="http://micro.blogs.weloveit.info/?p=13197">writes</a>: &#8220;I have now set <em>allowguest=no</em> in /etc/asterisk/sip.conf and will monitor how this affects regular incoming calls and also the next ‘attack’&#8221;</p>
<p>If he really need his Asterisk available on port 5060, he could use SSH tunneling for the SIP signalling or a port knocking method to open port 5060 from his current IP when needed.</p>
<p>Will check what he does on the next attack.</p>
<p>Have you checked your logs lately?</p>
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